Rohan Ramakrishna, MD
Neurosurgeon and Co-Founder at Roon
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Do clinicians & patients want to see AI-generated content in their Epic MyChart inbox? The Times recently reported on the use of AI in managing Epic MyChart Inbox Messages. So I became curious and decided to analyze the comments from readers – both patients and providers - to see how they were reacting. The result? AI in healthcare messaging is not welcome, at least not yet! Over 70% of commenters expressed deep concerns, ranging from privacy to the lack of humans in the loop. Here’s what I learned:1. Transparency is Essential: Several health systems do not seem to be disclosing the use of AI in these responses, per reporting on the topic. Most commenters indicated they wouldn’t trust AI-generated replies. "I don’t message a doctor to have some AI reply to my messages,” one person wrote. “How do we know that doctors are even reading them?"2. AI does not save doctor's much time in this setting: Given the volume of messages and the need to review the AI-generated content, doctors are not seeing much time savings. Most doctors in the comments felt MyChart’s messaging overload added hours to their already packed days. "After a 10-hour clinic day, we stay another 2 hours to work through MyChart messages,"My POV - if the AI doesn’t give you at least a 50% productivity gain, you will not care or take the time to implement it. 3. AI Mistakes Can Be dangerous: The implementation of AI in MyChart presupposes a human in the loop. This process, however, is highly susceptible to automation bias, where people will just trust the AI rather than provide detailed oversight. A study cited in the article found that 7% of AI-generated responses posed severe risks if not corrected. Even if it was 0.01%, this is a huge problem given the scale of messaging. "AI assured me I had my hepatitis shots,” another commenter wrote. “This was completely false." This brings up another question: What level of error are we willing to accept in AI, when it comes to health? People are forgiving of doctors who make honest errors; With AI, I doubt it.4. The Human Touch Matters: According to the article, AI is edging into doctor-patient relationships. Most commenters expressed concerns that AI erodes the personal connection between doctors and patients. "Even if AI were flawless, do you want to automate one of the few ways we’re still interacting with each other?"5. Structural Reform: A majority of commenters pointed out that the real issue lies in the broader healthcare system, including consolidation, underfunding, and unsustainable workloads. MyChart messaging amplifies and highlights the existing access problem in healthcare. We have infinite demand for health information and services, but a limited supply of experts. Seems like the only solutions are increasing the supply of doctors(Hard) and/or reducing/diverting the demand for health related queries(easier?).What’s your take? Would love to know. Drop me a comment of your own. https://lnkd.in/eu7y6u66
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Sarah M Worthy
CEO and Founder at Door Space Inc.
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I don't want Epic to have any of my patient data. They have proven over and over they will sell our data, not secure it
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Spencer Dorn
Vice Chair & Professor of Medicine, UNC | Balanced healthcare perspectives
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Nice Rohan. Though the NYT article is underwhelming, I agree with much of your analysis. Applying AI to write drafts turns us into editors rather than writers. Yet most of us write faster than we can edit. The UCSD study showed that family docs who used AI spent 20% LONGER responding to messages.Also, although there are common patterns and themes, patients' messages are usually pretty idiosyncratic. So, many AI drafts are not helpful and go unused.Finally, as you wrote, most people want to hear from their own physician (or care team) -- not a bot (or a doctor who sounds like a bot).There's value to using AI here, but we've been applying it to the wrong part of the process. It's better to use AI to (a) ensure the message is routed to the right person/teams (often not the physician), (b) to label the message (to help teams prioritize and distribute the work), and (c) to provide context about the patient and their needs (rather than having to review the EHR for it). Then let a human write the actual response.
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Quinn Shean
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Good points. Re: need for transparency.... we need to be judicious about where we are mandating such disclosures so as to truly alert patients when they should be aware (avoid consent fatigue) and avoid unnecessary mistrust, particularly as the technologies progress where they yield time-savings and require less editing.If the response is automatically generated and sent, or there is real-time chatbot communication, perhaps the disclosure is warranted. But should transparency be necessary where AI help generate an answer if the provider reviews it and/orrevises it? Do we require a disclaimer on patientcommunications when ascribe was usedor if another professional generated a first draft? Adisclaimer suggests somehow the provider did not support the content or that a patient should be more skeptical than had the provider drafted without any AI tools.
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Adam Carewe MD
Virtualist | CMO Heidi | Fractional C-Suite | VC Advisory | Angel Investor | Emerging Technologies | Digital | AI | Board Certified in Clinical Informatics & Family Medicine
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What if patients could get their answers from AI without engaging their personal doctor? What if that AI was an extension of their doctor? Spoke like their doctor? Acted just like the doctor the patient knows so well. We need AI to help solve the existential problem coming: Way more demand with an aging population coupled with a physician pipeline that is not growing (and a staggering number of medical students who don’t even want to touch a patient in direct patient care). We need AI solutions to combat this problem. We spend too much time talking about the current state. Why is doesn’t work now. Let’s work towards the future state. And I stand by my conviction that AI will nearly replace everything what a doctor does today in a matter of years. That includes all doctors eventually in time. We will get there and legacy fee for volume healthcare needs to go away with it to reach this reality. Value based AI enabled care is the way.
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Alice Chen
National physician leader in health advocacy and public health
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My experience is that patients send a message to their doctor because they want the reassurance and counsel of a person who knows them. When I write to a patient about their cholesterol results, I'm taking into account the conversation we had about their new resolve eat healthier or how they are too tired at the end of a long workday as a cleaner to exercise or how worried they are because their mother recently had a stroke. When a patient asks several questions about a referral, it signals to me that they are really concerned about it, so I know to bring it up proactively when I next see them in person. There may be some simple messages that AI can respond to, but so much of our communication as doctors and patients is innately human and relational and trust-building that I wouldn't feel comfortable outsourcing much if any to a machine.
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Wesley S
CEO @ Proteotype | Dad | On a Mission
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I guess the only acceptable limit would be AI helping doctors write at the speed of thought.
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Dennis Deruelle, MD, FHM
Chief Medical Officer at Mendota Health
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Humans are not doing a good job of helping patients and could use the right kind of help Just call a doctors office or use your portal to navigate an active issue and your will see the contact hours it takes to accurately get something doneWe need help from AI because we are not doing a good job currently I am a stanch supporter in transparency about when and where and how AI is being used however Patients will welcome AI in concert with their doctors if it leads to an improvement
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Madhubala Radhakrishnan
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Fully Agree .. it erodes the personal connection.
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